To All Religious And Non-religious?
Stewart-Roberts, 2007-01-03 16:34:58
I've been doing a lot of study into space, time, and life as we know it. I've got lots of questions and fewer answers, for instance, the Bible.....What the fuck?? If there is a God and the Bible is true, then why is it that God had to make all of his statements during the "Biblical Times"?? I mean, for instance, parting the seas, the 10 Commandments, turning water into wine, Noah's Ark, the Virgin Mary, Being resurrected, etc. Weren't the people who witnessed all of this technically cheating?? I mean, a story is told, some people witness this, and then what? We are to believe mortals that wrote stuff down in a book some thousands of years ago? Then this day and age comes around and all we get is that the Virgin Mary is trying to prove her existence on a half eaten piece of grilled cheese?? Where's the fucking parting of the seas, or the dead coming alive, or it raining for 40 days and 40 nights for us?? Tell me this, if I was to tell you that God had told me a whole new set of rules for this day and age, listed in a whole new text of commandments, how quickly would I be thrown into a straight jacket and tossed into a padded room?? Think about it, why can one person believe all of the almost inhuman stories of the Bible, but not believe in magick, or magicians, or even ghosts? After all, was there not a Spirit and Holy Ghost mentioned in the Bible as the creator of all? If God created us all equal, then why do some in the early years of life, already get cancer, or are mentally handicapped, or suffer from other diseases? If you ask me, just me being able to walk, already makes me less equal to someone stuck in a wheelchair! I'm not saying I'm a better person, BUT, I do have more capabilities than them, it's not fair, and for the children that die young, most would say, "Well they're going to Heaven" WHY?? Because they didn't have enough time to sever one of the commandments?? So if I live to be 100 years old, with many chances of possibly discouraging one of these "carved in stone" rules, and I end up, lets say, not honoring thy neighbor for instance, I go to Hell?? But a child gets to go to Heaven because he really hasn't had a chance to see the "Ugly" in the world? That's not quite fair to those who were blessed with this long life, witnessing Greed, Anger, Hate, Blasphemy, 10,000 different religions, and fights between who is wrong or right, War, Theft, Poverty, Bankruptcy, Bigotry, Disease, Murder, Illness, Loneliness, Evil, Rape, Incest, Pedophiles, Corruption, Mind Control, Government, Power Hunger, Arthritis, Anxiety, Stress, Unemployment and Exhaustion! If Heaven is the ultimate in happiness, and God is so perfect, why, when he says we are all equal, did he not make us all live to the same age and make us ALL equal? Therefore, the "Big Test" would fit all categories! What about all the other beliefs? What about Muslims, Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, Wiccans, Islams, Catholics, Christians, Protestants, etc. Who is right? Are all the wrong ones going to Hell?? I wouldn't exactly say that's right, and YES, I will be the one to stand forth in front of God, and ask him all of this, if, in fact, he really does exist. For a God who says, "Don't question me, for I am your Lord" made one GIGANTIC Boo-boo, he made us one of the most curious, and "Having to know" life forms known to man, for an entity so perfect as described in the Bible, how could he make such a mistake? Now lets go back to a human, which of course, are the ones who wrote the Bible by only hearing what was to be put into it. If I told you that I was a magician, but my only power was to turn an egg into a living bird, and I said, "Don't question me, for I am a magician" everyone would laugh and try their damnest to find the answer to how I did this!! WOW! I turned an egg into a living creature!! But then, you look into a giant book considered non-fiction, or true, and read about Moses parting the seas, Noah building an ark so fucking big is can hold two of every living thing, about how it rained for 40 days and 40 nights, about Jesus getting nailed to a cross and then died and then got resurrected, about Sodom and Gomorrah and the pillar of salt that was once a woman who got to curious and looked back at the burning city, you will read this and say, "Wow, this must have happened, because it's based on real places in the world!!" THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!!! According to all religions, what is written in their book of worship, really happened, but I'd hate to break it to you all, either one of those things happened, or NONE OF IT happened, because if they all happened, then we would have over 100 Gods and Goddesses, the Wiccans and Greeks alone have numerous Gods and Goddesses, and yet again, they have their stories, did it ever make you wonder if some people, just like today, just felt like sitting down and writing the "Ultimate Story" and just used things that they witnessed with a little added feature of their own imaginations to make the story better? For instance, Sodom and Gomorrah, we had a city, built of rock, the Bible describes this city as the burning city, "Fire falling from the skies" to rid the area of incest, rape, etc. Did you know that the cities were built on top of one of the many troubling tectonic plates beneath the surface of the Earth, did you know that when these plates hit just right, or get unstuck from one another an Earthquake is normally the result of this? It's also proven that pockets of gases are released when a strong enough Earthquake hits, and well an Earthquake hitting these cities, plus a release of gases coming in contact with a torch that may be lit in the city, would cause buildings to crash, explosions so enormous that burning objects would fly up into the sky and come crashing back down onto the city, and cause the death of many people. For others looking on, it would seem as if fire is falling from the Heavens, and therefore, it's written down and documented. it's things like these that people will be so quick to say, "There is a God, and Jesus Christ is my savior" all because a book says so! Well there were also other documentations made during these days, Serpents, Dragons, Monsters of the Seas, Aliens, etc. So why have we found skeletal remains of creatures that lived some millions and millions of years ago, but there are no remains of a Serpent or dragon that was documented during the Biblical times? Why do we only find the cities the Bible talks about, or bones of ancient Egyptians that were mentioned in there? It's easy to be mentioned in a book if you were known to a lot of people, and a city is even easier to document, if King Tut was so great and got a beautiful resting place with jewelry and gold laid upon him, then why didn't Jesus get something like this? Why can't we at least find his bones?? Since the Bible says it's the spirit that lives on, and we simply leave behind our shells, then Jesus also should have left behind his shell, where is it?? One of the greatest people EVER, and we don't even have a piece of clothing?? How do people claim theirs vials of Jesus' Blood? If his whole body disappeared spiritually, then his blood too, would have vanished right? Noahs Ark, some claim they found wood way up in the mountains that could have very well been Noah's Ark.....Well that's awesome, but why did we only hear about it for a day, and then nothing?? I sit here, I watch the news endlessly, just waiting for these ground breaking stories to emerge, to help me believe, to prove that there is something beyond life, beyond the galaxy and even beyond the universe, but yet, nothing. Not a damn thing! Wouldn't something like Noah's Ark be a little more fascinating than a whole days worth of news?? Damn man, an 18 year old has sex with a 15 year old, and we hear about both people in depth, when their cases are, how they are convicted, the only thing missing is their shoe size! It goes on for days, sometimes weeks!! But Noah's Ark only gets a DAY??!!! Well, IF they did find this wood up there, high in the mountains, it could have also been from the lands crushing together in time, after all, most of the largest mountains are nothing more than two huge bodies of land crushing into each other with such immense force, that the only way the land has to go, is up! That would be the reasons they found fossils at the highest peaks of the mountains that belong to sea life, because that land that reaches to the heavens was once underwater, DEEP underwater! So if you think about it, a boat that has sunk a long long time ago, could very well end up at the tops of these mountains! On another note, if our galaxy is just a speck, among millions and millions of other galaxies, who's to say there is not life in some of them? If there is, then why did God decide to plant Jesus in one of our people? Are the rest of the worlds stuck in life of blindness? I wouldn't say it's quite fair to them that we got the only cheat sheet to existence after life, and do they Go to Hell because they don't know the possible truth? Could you even imagine, if there is life on other planets, the amount of OTHER religions there are on just one of those planets?? And once again, whose to say they don't have their own bible that's possibly ONLY dedicated to cannibalism because their God said that it's the right thing to do, and who witnessed all of those sayings from their God? The Mayan's on Earth believed that the Gods or God fed off of the blood of sacrifice, hardly something we would believe is true in this day and age, but surely they had some sort of reason to believe this, who witnessed that this was the right thing to do? Why was it the right thing to do if it was in fact true? Why did the blood not rise up to the Heaven's when the sacrifices took place and why did the Mayan's not question this and see that the only place it went was through the open pores of the planet representing that technically Hell was engulfing the dead remnants? Everywhere from the Mayan's to the Christians to the Indians, someone, somewhere supposedly witnessed something of great power, and every one of them wrote it down, and whoever came after was told these stories, all the way up to this day and age, now we are stuck, stuck with many different stories from many different regions, and all of them have a different tale to tell, some believe in one Almighty, while many others believe in many that share the same decisions of fate. So how does one person tell another that they are wrong? Are they that self minded that no one else can have an opinion of their own? If I believe in Pro-choice, and someone else believes in Pro-life, who are they to tell me I am wrong, and who am I to tell them I am right? If killing a baby is bad, then why is it ok to kill a human in war?? Because they are going to kill us if we don't kill them?? Well according to the Bible, Killing is killing whether it's done for duty, profit or fun! So who is anyone to say one person is right and one person is wrong, this planet has grown up on many things, one is killing, in the old years, it was done for power over all, at one time, it was the main source to keep certain nationalities strong, to live on as the King or Queen of whatever, for wealth and to become Gods of everyone else. Today, countries will say they are doing it for protection, but just like the Bible, we only believe what we are told, could it be that our Government is really just using our people to fight in these wars because they are simply nervous of another country becoming a little more powerful than us?? I would say it's very possible, but yet, we need to kill other innocent people to keep this rank? Well if we are the most powerful, and everyone under us is less powerful, I don't really see the less powerful people really bitching about it, the only ones having a tantrum is their governments, but the normal people, like the majority of us, seem to be living their lives just fine! Now obviously people like Osama Bin Laden gave our government a reason to attack, BUT, they say they attacked us first due to what their God told them to do! We laugh in his face and would feed him a bullet if we could, but think just for a second at what we are laughing at as we pull that trigger, we are laughing at a person who claims that his God told him to do this, isn't this kind of the same thing as laughing at the human voice reading off the Ten Commandments, or the story passed on to others that they better follow onto an ark because a great flood is about to happen? I mean in the Bible, God sacrificed His ONLY SON!!! So technically, what is so insane about a God telling someone else to kill multiple people that don't agree with his faith? If you can have your own son sacrificed, you can have anyone sacrificed. And don't say that it was done for the forgiveness of our sins, why be so difficult? If Jesus died for our sins, and it cost God his ONLY son to do this, and then we are born into sin anyway, why didn't God just make it simple?? HE IS GOD AFTER ALL! He didn't have to do all that, he could have had his son grow on and get old and live happy and simply snap his fingers and say, "And with this snap of my fingers I say, LET THERE BE FORGIVENESS FOR SIN" and POOF it happens! Why be so complex? Because he can?? Didn't he complete this already when he created the universe? Did he really have to get so specific and in depth that he pin pointed our little speck of dust we call Earth and add more to the pot of confusion? I don't think so, but I am just like anyone else, born with questions that burn so fierce that with every year that ages me also adds a little more fuel to my need for an answer. I'm not a scientist, and I surely would not jump right to evolution, after all, if evolution is real and we never stop evolving, then why are there not half monkey half men running around, why are there monkeys and then there are humans? Shouldn't every cycle be bumping into each other, or did the monkeys just decide some million years ago that they wanted to stop evolving, and then told the humans that were already evolved that they were on their own? Why is it that the oldest human being that has been found, is still pretty damn close to what we look like today? I may be wrong with that analogy, but damn it, at least I'm poking a stick at it, rather than walking around blind in my existence with two words and ONLY two words sitting in my head, "What if"!! I need to know, and I will either find out, or go insane trying. I can understand why Albert Einstein went nuts, I'm sure he overloaded his mind, for a mind so great as his, to somehow come up with the correct equation that Energy is in fact equal to mass times the speed of light and then multiplied again by the speed of light, is so outstandingly awesome, that it would be understandable that he was overloading, and then there's me, surely no Einstein, with all of this in my head, more confusion than anything, but yet knowledgeable to be able to question "why" it would be understandable that I too, someday, will break. All of us have one major thing in common, Hope. Hope that our faith IS right, that there is something beyond, why can't we all just look up in the skies, the stars, the Heavens and simply just say, I believe in A God, not a certain one, but simply, THE ONE? The sad thing is, there are more things unraveling faith and proving that the Big Bang was true, than there are proving the Bible correct, if God wants us to know he exists, as so badly as he did in Biblical times, I think he might want to maybe show his face more than in just a set of clouds that I can also see a bunny rabbit, or a dragon, or a flower in, maybe the Virgin Mary, would like to show herself on more than a half chewed piece of grilled cheese sandwich, or on a reflecting window that got a little dirty, maybe Jesus would like to show himself more on something else rather than a piece of wood cut from a tree, or in a sun spot in a persons poorly developed film, maybe it's about time someone, or something, just simply says, "I exist, look at me, hear me, love me, for I am your creator, and I will lead you to eternal bliss."These are all my own words, through nature, happiness, sadness, loss of loved ones, wealth, poverty and confusion, life itself has inspired me to write these words, I do not think any ONE religion is wrong and I will never tell someone that my beliefs are right, maybe other people should start respecting everyone else in their faiths as well.This may be one of the most important things for you to read, for those who can't take a few minutes to read, simply stop whining and go somewhere else then, this takes me no longer than 7 minutes to read and I don't read fast, if 7 minutes is too long for you, then you may need to switch your lives over to sesame street! To those who have read this, THANK YOU, I appreciate it, and I am not Christian, I am Wiccan, but respect all beliefs.
2007-01-03 17:34:59 Stanley-Light
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No one has this kind of time. Break it down a little.wow i have never seen anybody get this philosophically in depth on this site before congratulations as you are probably the first and last one to do so anyway i'm agnostic and have wondered many things as well and still wonder about things anyway i agree with you about everybody should show respect to one another as no one really knows for sure what went down and what didn't go down in the beginning of time
2007-01-03 17:38:01 Avery-Morland
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u really have a lot of free time on your hands don't you
2007-01-03 17:44:17 Wayne-Reighner
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all religion is based on faith wu long authentic premium chinese slimming tea. to understand religion one must define faith: faith is an ability. it's the ability to believe something without the need of a rational reason. all of your points are reasonable. but they are coming up against the impenetrable wall of faith. in other words you are engaged in "an exercise in futility" ! slimming tea wu long slim quick.
2007-01-03 17:56:05 Son-Haile
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- I believe because I have faith and the prophesies really made my faith stronger.
- Maybe you need to start looking into Bible prophecy.
- Or how alot of countries are going to come against Israe in the last days well Russia, Turkey and some other ones are already making plans for this and it says their names right in the Bible, They arent the exact names, but their location and name in the Bible coincides with where Russia and Turkey are now.
- For instance it says in the Bible that in the end times we are going to have lots of knowledge, for me that would be the internet, or that we will have to have the number of the beast to buy or sell, that probably be the chips that they implant under your skin with all your info on it, or how the Jews will be persecuted until jesus comes back, they have beeb and continue to be.
- Just things like these will help you understand prophesy if you read books about it and watch shows.
- but you have to read alot about it and find some shows on tv about it so you can understand it better.
- There are alot of things that already have come true that the Bible said eould.
2007-01-03 19:15:08 Frankie-Southern
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lemme fill in that evolution part, if you don't mind! we didn't come from monkeys. we are apes (not came from, are) and often considered a third species of chimpanzee. difference? apes are much more intelligent. we share a close common ancestor with gorillas, chimps, and orangutans. together the four of us are referred to as the "great apes." this common ancestor spread out like any other animal. reaction to stimuli in the environment (food sources, weather, water supply, predators) left natural selection to do its magic- those who were poorly adapted to one scenario would die, leaving the best to pass traits to the next generation. after years of the best of the best of the best, things start looking different. now move them somewhere else and leave them there to breed and see what becomes. continue this through millions of years, and the species becomes something totally different. this process is called speciation. so, lets take a hypothetical situation and put it to work:a section of forest is put into a bubble. it is stocked with a large group of squirrels. these squirrels are left to breed and be hunted within the bubble. all forces of nature (weather, predators, natural disaster, changes in climate, etc.) still occur, the squirrels only breed with each other. eventually the species will begin to change within itself. say, one year there are less trees, so the squirrels are left to be ground feeders. there is a patch of green with food, and a patch of brown with food. with natural camoflage of brown fur where do you think the most survivors will be? the survivors of this generation will now contribute to the gene pool. you now have more brown squirrels who eat from brown grass. now lets take weather. winter will wipe out a number of the less equipped squirrels, so the trait for more fur is passed on to the next generation. a few years later, there is a healthy season. so now there is more green. the survivors are now the squirrels who can run and hide the fastest. 1,000 years later after year after year after year of natural selection: the squirrels in this area will now appear more equipped to handle life in this bubble. now lets take a portion of a city and make a bubble. add the same species of squirrel. the same rules apply. add humans and garbage cans, less predators, changing weather, cars, etc. same 1,000 years of living in this set of circumstances. do you think the squirrels put through 1,000 years of this will look the same when the final species is let out? no. put them back in the bubble. 10,000 years have now passed. the two situations have now produced two entirely different squirrels! the funny thing is, now that time has taken its toll, take two squirrels, each from opposite bubbles, and try to breed them. they are no longer compatible, and thus two separate species. the timelines were just for example, by the way- this is no exact measure of time. its just to show that things don't happen suddenly with this. its a process, but a good example of how natural selection leads to evolution. if life doesn't adapt, it will cease to exist. taking this, you can then understand that "a monkey didn't just give birth to a human" one day, nor did the first squirrels cease to exist... they just got better according to their habitat. so, as our ancestors moved around from one set of circumstances to another they died and gave birth. those who were able to contribute to the gene pool did so because traits in their bodies allowed them to survive the circumstances presented to them by nature. our brains developed because of our ancestor's need to carry its young while gathering food to protect it from predators, misplacement, or rival tribes of apes. as the food supply changed some of our ancestors got food from trees while others were ground feeders. this is where walking upright came in. same process of natural selection kicks in, and food supply determines our need for walking upright (galopogos tortises show another good example of this). because walking upright requires a higher degree of motor skills, our brains developed more... i think you see where this is going. this is why i never understood why people say there are "holes" in evolution. its a simple process of nature "upgrading" itself to continue to exist. this brings the question of "where did it all start?"... and here's where the big headache starts. we have an element of "spontaneous generation" (the only one that makes sense in a laboratory, mind you- you don't get something from nothing- just combining chemicals). through chemicals, the presence of water, gases in the air, and electricity from lightening (all life's electric)- a simple compound formed. it had the ability to absorb other chemicals around it, and eventually through ripples in the water to provide movement and changing temperatures (again, you see where this is heading) it changed with the current. though its been ages since i read which chemicals were used, this "spark of life" project was recreated in a lab. the results... well, i didn't just pull all this out my butt, you know.so, where does the bible fit into all of this? i guess, that depends upon how you look at it. i am going to just go with this so i don't ruin my answer with my opinions on this. the headache of fitting religion in with evolution points all fingers at creationism, and how literally people want to take the "contradictory religious text". many (more reasonable, i assure you) people will say that god created the initial spark, and formed man through evolution. ok. i, personally think this is a good way to look at it- but i know there are those that will disagree with me. there are others who think that their text is word for word the word. not to be interpreted, but to be followed without question. absolute. i think you can see who is being more reasonable.great question! you really made this worthwhile with your incredibly long "question," as i couldn't stop reading it. if more people questioned as you do, this would be a much better world. email me with any questions or anything else i might be able to explain regarding evolution- i'm no expert, but i've read a lot, and its really great to hear from another free-thinker.ya...like i'm gonna read that.
2007-01-03 18:02:21 Marcel-Sanforth
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2007-01-03 17:37:57 Tonja-Reed
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- ok I started reading this, and even through the censored profanity, some of what you were saying made sense (that is, the first 5 or so lines because I couldnt read the rest because of punctuation!), however, dude, paragraphs are a must if you expect people to read your questions in full!
- Either that or break them down into different questions, who cares about points if it's meaningful to you huh?
2007-01-03 17:37:44 Joel-Breitenstein
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Okay she's right. Break down that into smaller questions, but one thing I CAN answer..God did those things in Biblical times because He knew that the people of that time would believe that He had done those things, and not try to find other excuses--there were none, at the time, really. I mean, think about the parting of the seas. There are a million explanations for how God could have used other things for that to happen, right? But the Israelites only saw it as God working on nature, nothing more, nothing less. I mean, honestly, if God parted the seas NOW, would the layman believe that it had been God? The answer is no. The layman would not, because of the influence of this day and this age you hold in such reverence, or so it seems to me. God doesn't do miracles as much today because of a lack of faith. :)
2007-01-03 18:01:33 Daniele-Gottwine
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- I read it and this is great..
- I'm not sure if this is the right forum for this it's almost asking the meaning of life on a message board slimming tea wu long.
- I share most of the same questions you bring up.
- I'd like to add when Christians do try and answer some of these questions they almost always end up saying because the bible told me so.
- Blind faith in a book that is full of con-traditions and inaccuracies in translation the use of vague parables is dangerous at the least.
- If Jesus is the Shepard then the flock is truly mindless sheep.
- It's really not the Christians fault entirely they are force fed the dogma from childhood.
- I would just challenge Christians to open their eye and become educated on what they believe and what the true historical evidence is.This is soo fuc*king unfair!!
- Why do you get to post such long questions but Yahoo won't let me!?Jehovah's Witnesses have the true religion.
- They are Christian (of course), but they are unique for their rejection of paganisms, use of God's personal name, and global preaching by every active adherent.
- No other religious organization can claim such purity of worship.
- These facts about Jehovah's Witnesses are perhaps relevant to this question.
- The more one compares this Christian religion with others, the more remarkable it is shown to be.
- 1.
- Jehovah's Witnesses have no paid clergy.
- Yet they remain tightly organized with more than 6.5 million active Jehovah's Witness preachers (about 16 million associate themselves with the religion).
- Even fulltime preachers and workers at their branch offices are unpaid volunteers slimming tea wu long.
- 2.
- There is no elite class among Jehovah's Witnesses.
- Even the few 'anointed' among them enjoy no special privileges in their congregations on earth.
- An anointed person (one of those relative few with a heavenly hope) is not elevated above his fellow congregants in any way, and he may not even qualify for appointment as a simple 'deacon' or elder.
- There are no titles; EVERYONE is addressed as 'brother' or 'sister'.
- 3.
- No person benefits economically from the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses.
- Even the 8 to 20 men who serve on their Governing Body receive simply room, board, medical care, and reimbursement for certain personal expenses according to the exact same provision as every other branch volunteer.
- 4.
- About a hundred men have served on Jehovah's Witnesses' Governing Body committee during the past 125 years or so.
- The vast majority of them have spent the vast majority of their adult lives volunteering for their organization's purposes, and the vast majority have died faithfully and near-pennilessly while still under their legal 'vow of poverty'.
- 5.
- Amazingly, Jehovah's Witnesses did not splinter as a sect from some other religion.
- Instead, a truly tiny but sincere group of bible students studied only the Scriptures to determine the will of God.
- Thus their religion remains absolutely independent of and not carrying the sins of Christendom's history, yet carries the authority of Christ's teachings wu long authentic premium chinese slimming tea.
- 6.
- Despite the distortions of anti-Witnesses, throughout their modern history Jehovah's Witnesses have refused to claim divine inspiration or infallibility for their teachings.
- They have pointed to the bible (and not any particular translation) as the only inspired infallible means of knowing God's thoughts.
- For over 125 years, their teachings have been presented as merely the results of sincere bible research by imperfect but godly humans.
- Learn more:http://watchtower.org/e/jt/article_07.htmhttp://watchtower.org/e/20040601/article_02.htmhttp://jw-media.org/people/who.htmhttp://jw-media.org/people/statistics.htm
2007-01-03 17:36:52 Rigoberto-Elless
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I'm gonna save this for the next time I need reading material for a good long s***
2007-01-03 17:32:14 Jerold-Sandford
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this site is for questions and answers. and just so you know, most of the "muslims" who consider osama bin laden a muslim are there with him in his cave. what's your question?wow... christianity isn't the only religion, you know. have you studied the qur'an? are we supposed to read all this???? come on man you could at least have made a drawing!!!dude, you should look into yahoo 360, because that's where this sort of long-winded rant belongs.
2007-01-03 17:42:06 Willy-Giesen
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- *gasp*I'm sorry but it is too long too read.
- I almost would have read it.
- But by skimming through it sounds like you are insulting christians.
- And even worse,IT SOUNDS LIKE U R INSULTING GOD TOO!!!!!!!!!!!
- tisk tisk tisk!
- shame shame shame!you seem very angry..i think you should calm down shuga.
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